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Ternyata Pantsir series Bermasalah
The Russian army wants a less-troubled, more advanced and cost-effective air defense system to replace the Pantsir (SA-22 Greyhound in NATO designation), either land- or ship-based.
According to anonymous and, hence, unconfirmed sources in the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Russian Army and Navy are dissatisfied with the Pantsir air defense system and, consequently, are looking for new systems.
To protect the ships in the coastal zone and in harbors, the new Pantsir-M, rather recently unveiled, is regarded as too expensive and not effective enough against some threats.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/may_...antsir-m.html
Dari yg d Bold di atas ternyata pantsir series banyak masalah yg terbukti di palagan syria. bahkan untuk upgrade sampek jual produk2 yg bermasalah ke customer
yg jadi pertanyaan :
1. Seberapa efektif sih SPAAG untuk perang jaman skrng??
2. Kemudian untuk beberapa SPAAG kan d jadikan model CIWS juga tuh seberapa efektif juga dibandingkan sama RAM?
According to anonymous and, hence, unconfirmed sources in the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Russian Army and Navy are dissatisfied with the Pantsir air defense system and, consequently, are looking for new systems.
For the army, the Pantsir-S1 air defense system proved too heavy, complex and not effective to protect against most of the potential threats. The Syrian campaign has revealed a number of technical flaws of the Pantsir-S1 which even took direct hits during an Israeli airstrike with impunity. Pantsir’s radar can’t keep up with acquisition and tracking of small size targets, like drones and precision munitions. Currently, attempts are being made to develop a new advanced version for the air force, called Pantsir-SM, benefiting from upgraded electronics and radar, and new missiles. Its funding is said to come from selling the existing version of “troubled” air defense systems abroad at a low price.
To protect the ships in the coastal zone and in harbors, the new Pantsir-M, rather recently unveiled, is regarded as too expensive and not effective enough against some threats.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/may_...antsir-m.html
Dari yg d Bold di atas ternyata pantsir series banyak masalah yg terbukti di palagan syria. bahkan untuk upgrade sampek jual produk2 yg bermasalah ke customer
yg jadi pertanyaan :
1. Seberapa efektif sih SPAAG untuk perang jaman skrng??
2. Kemudian untuk beberapa SPAAG kan d jadikan model CIWS juga tuh seberapa efektif juga dibandingkan sama RAM?
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Yang gagal itu Pantsir S-2, situ tau perbedaan mendasar antara S-1 & S-2 nga?
Nga usah pake tanda kutip2 deh, pake berusaha mendramatisir. Unik dari mana? Dimana lagi menemukan SPAAG kayak gini? Lebay!!
Lu tau tentang AN/TWQ-1 Avenger nga?

Situ tau spesifikasi Pantsir nga?
Specifications (Pantsir-S1):
Crew : 3
Main armament : 95Ya6 series (basic missile), 95YA6-2/M series missile-targets, 23Ya6 missile (Domestic) 57E6, 57E6-E (Enhanced) (Export only)
Secondary armament : Two dual 2A38M 30 mm (1.2 in) autocannon guns
•https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir_missile_system
Nih gambar rudalnya :


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•http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-96K6-Pantsir-2K22-Tunguska.html
Sama seperti Pantsir, Tunguska itu main armamentnya adalah rudal, tapi kenapa disinggung Tor-M2? Karena success ratenya itu 80%.
Trus kenapa harus Tor-M2? Alasannya adalah:
1.) Keduanya memiliki kesamaan jarak jangkau.
2.) Keduanya, dijual dengan menawarkan fitur yang sama...ANTI-PGM Capabilities.
3.) Keduanya memiliki kesamaan waktu reaksi.
Dan banyak lagi kesamaan baik dari segi parameter atau kemampuan.
Diubah oleh Mistaravim 20-05-2019 10:50
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