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Diubah oleh khiekhan 09-10-2018 10:54
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goodness, i never imagine my schedule will one day be as busy as the last few days 
let me show you another example, the original argument is as follow:
(1) God is omnipotent (that is, all-powerful).
(2) God is omniscient (that is, all-knowing).
(3) God is perfectly good.
(4) Evil exists.
(5) If God is omnipotent, he would be able to prevent all of the evil and suffering in the world.
(6) If God is omniscient, he would know about all of the evil and suffering in the world and would know how to eliminate or prevent it.
(7) If God is perfectly good, he would want to prevent all of the evil and suffering in the world.
(8) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering in the world, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, is powerful enough to prevent it, and yet does not prevent it, he must not be perfectly good.
(9) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, wants to prevent it, and yet does not do so, he must not be all- powerful.
(10) If God is powerful enough to prevent all of the evil and suffering, wants to do so, and yet does not, he must not know about all of the suffering or know how to eliminate or prevent it—that is, he must not be all-knowing.
(11) If evil and suffering exist, then God is either not omnipotent, not omniscient, or not perfectly good.
(12) God is either not omnipotent, not omniscient, or not perfectly good.
however, premise (1) to (3) can be combined into:
(13) God is omnipotent, omniscient and perfectly good.
however, since premise (4) is true, and as shown from argument (5) to (11), we can say that premise (1) to (4) is logically inconsistent, or, we can boil it down further into: (14) It is not possible for God and evil to co-exist.
so far still the same as before, at this point, we can add another premise, the same premise i told you earlier, just in different place.
(15) It is possible that God has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
if (15) is true, then the argument (8), (9), (10) and (11) can then be changed into:
(8.a) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering in the world, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, is powerful enough to prevent it, and yet does not prevent it, he must not be perfectly good—unless he has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
(9.a) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, wants to prevent it, and yet does not do so, he must not be all-powerful—unless he has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
(10.a) If God is powerful enough to prevent all of the evil and suffering, wants to do so, and yet does not, he must not know about all of the suffering or know how to eliminate or prevent it (that is, he must not be all-knowing)—unless he has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
(11.a) If evil and suffering exist, then either: a) God is not omnipotent, not omniscient, or not perfectly good; or b) God has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
from those points, we can infer that:
(14.a) It is possible for god and evil to co-exist.
so, our next assignment was to show (15) is true. you feeling up for it?
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Original Posted By bernard-purba►
bold:how can i do that? Mind to give some example?
Italic: where should i place that?
Btw,while im boiling down my words, i may junk at other trid to release the tension in my boiling head (mostly from RL,not from this discussion)
About isekai,are you currently read some isekai stuff khie?
bold:how can i do that? Mind to give some example?
Italic: where should i place that?
Btw,while im boiling down my words, i may junk at other trid to release the tension in my boiling head (mostly from RL,not from this discussion)
About isekai,are you currently read some isekai stuff khie?
let me show you another example, the original argument is as follow:
(1) God is omnipotent (that is, all-powerful).
(2) God is omniscient (that is, all-knowing).
(3) God is perfectly good.
(4) Evil exists.
(5) If God is omnipotent, he would be able to prevent all of the evil and suffering in the world.
(6) If God is omniscient, he would know about all of the evil and suffering in the world and would know how to eliminate or prevent it.
(7) If God is perfectly good, he would want to prevent all of the evil and suffering in the world.
(8) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering in the world, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, is powerful enough to prevent it, and yet does not prevent it, he must not be perfectly good.
(9) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, wants to prevent it, and yet does not do so, he must not be all- powerful.
(10) If God is powerful enough to prevent all of the evil and suffering, wants to do so, and yet does not, he must not know about all of the suffering or know how to eliminate or prevent it—that is, he must not be all-knowing.
(11) If evil and suffering exist, then God is either not omnipotent, not omniscient, or not perfectly good.
(12) God is either not omnipotent, not omniscient, or not perfectly good.
however, premise (1) to (3) can be combined into:
(13) God is omnipotent, omniscient and perfectly good.
however, since premise (4) is true, and as shown from argument (5) to (11), we can say that premise (1) to (4) is logically inconsistent, or, we can boil it down further into: (14) It is not possible for God and evil to co-exist.
so far still the same as before, at this point, we can add another premise, the same premise i told you earlier, just in different place.
(15) It is possible that God has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
if (15) is true, then the argument (8), (9), (10) and (11) can then be changed into:
(8.a) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering in the world, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, is powerful enough to prevent it, and yet does not prevent it, he must not be perfectly good—unless he has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
(9.a) If God knows about all of the evil and suffering, knows how to eliminate or prevent it, wants to prevent it, and yet does not do so, he must not be all-powerful—unless he has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
(10.a) If God is powerful enough to prevent all of the evil and suffering, wants to do so, and yet does not, he must not know about all of the suffering or know how to eliminate or prevent it (that is, he must not be all-knowing)—unless he has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
(11.a) If evil and suffering exist, then either: a) God is not omnipotent, not omniscient, or not perfectly good; or b) God has a morally sufficient reason for allowing evil.
from those points, we can infer that:
(14.a) It is possible for god and evil to co-exist.
so, our next assignment was to show (15) is true. you feeling up for it?
Diubah oleh khiekhan 22-10-2018 22:37
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