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Tentara Israel tewas saat serangan darat ke Gaza !!
Statistic
JUMLAH TENTARA YANG "TEWAS" VERSI QUICK COUNT = 63
JUMLAH TENTARA YANG "TERLUKA" VERSI QUICK COUNT = unknown
total pasukan 40.000 personel
diambil dari rilis media massa israel
kenapa quick count ?? ... karena bisa saja bertambah dari prajurit yang terluka dan kemudian meninggal saat di rawat.
Update terbaru :
Well karena semakin banyak yang berguguran maka akan di list saja disini :
Sec.-Lt. Hadar Goldin, 23, of Kfar Saba, was killed in battle in Gaza on August 1.
Major Benaya Sarel, 26, of Kiryat Arba, an officer in the Givati Brigade was killed on August 1 during
clashes with terrorists in southern Gaza.
St.-Sgt. Liel Gidoni, 20, of Jerusalem, a soldier in the Givati Brigade was killed on August 1 during clashes with terrorists in southern Gaza.
Sergeant First Class (res.) Daniel Marash, 22, of Rishon Lezion, a reservist combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
Capt. (res.) Liran Adir (Edry), 31, of Ezuz, a reservist combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Noam Rosenthal, 20, of Meitar. a combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
Capt. Omri Tal, 22, of Yehud, a combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Shay Kushnir, 20, of Kiryat Motzkin, a combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Guy Algranati, 20, of Tel Aviv was killed in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft in southern Gaza on July 30. He served in the elite Maglan infantry unit.
St.-Sgt. Omer Hay, 21, of Savyon was killed in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft in southern Gaza on July 30. He served in the elite Maglan infantry unit.
St.-Sgt. Matan Gotlib, 21, of Rishon Lezion was killed in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft in southern Gaza on July 30. He served in the elite Maglan infantry unit.
Sergeant Daniel Kedmi, 18, of Tzofim, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sergeant Barkai Yishai Shor, 21, of Jerusalem, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sergeant Sagi Erez, 19, of Kiryat Ata, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sergeant Dor Deri, 18, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sgt. Nadav Raimond, 19, from Shadmot Dvora, was killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Corporal Niran Cohen, 20 of Tiberias. Served in the 7th Armor Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
Corporal Meidan Maymon Biton, 20 of Netivot. Served in the 7th Armored Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
St.Sgt. Eliav Eliyahu Haim Kahlon, 22 of Safed. Served in the 7th Armor Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
Sgt. First Class Adi Briga, 23 of Beit Shikma. Served in the 7th Armor Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
St.-Sgt. Moshe Davino, 20, of Jerusalem was killed in action inside Gaza on July 29.
NCO Sgt. First Class Barak Refael Degorker, 27, from Gan Yavne, was killed after he was struck by a mortar shell fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
Captain Liad Lavi, an officer in an infantry unit, died on July 26 after he was hospitalized from wounds he had sustained in the southern Gaza Strip on July 25.
Chief Warrant Officer Rami Kahlon, 39, a non-commissioned officer serving in the Paratroopers Brigade, died after succumbing to wounds he had sustained in Gaza the week before.
Lt. Roy Peles, 21, from Tel Aviv, served in the Nahal Brigade and was killed when an anti-tank missile struck his position in Gaza early on Saturday.
St.-Sgt. Avraham Grintzvaig, 21, from Petah Tikva, served in the Nahal Brigade and was killed early on Saturday in combat in northern Gaza.
St.-Sgt. Gal Bason, 21, from Holon, served in the Engineering Corps. He was killed in the northern Gaza Strip early on Saturday.
St.-Sgt. Guy Boyland, 21, from Ginosar, a combat engineer, was killed in a firefight with Hamas gunmen on July 25 in the southern Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Amit Yaori, 20, from Jerusalem, was in the Engineering Corps. He was killed on Friday in the same battle as Boyland.
St.-Sgt. Guy Levy, 21, from Kfar Vradim in northern Israel was killed in action Friday afternoon, July 25, in central Gaza while serving the Armored Corps.
NCO Master Sgt. (res.) Yair Ashkenazy, 36, from Rehovot, a reserve soldier serving in the reserves brigade of the Bahad 1 officer training base, was killed in battle in the north Gaza Strip early on the morning of July 25, 2014.
Lt. Paz Eliyahu, 22, from Kibbutz Evron, a Paratroopers officer, was killed when an explosive detonated near his position on July 23, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Li Mat, 19, from Eilat, a Paratroopers soldier, was killed when an explosive detonated near his position on July 23, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Shahar Dauber, 20, from Kibbutz Ginegar, a Paratroopers soldier, was killed when an explosive detonated near his position on July 23, 2014.
Captain Natan Cohen, 23, from Modi'in, a company commander in the Armored Corps was killed in Gaza on Tuesday, July 22. He was promoted from the rank of Lieutenant posthumously.
Captain Dmitri Levitas, 26, from Jerusalem and Geshur, was killed by sniper fire in Gaza on Tuesday, July 22. He was a company commander serving in the Armored Corps.
St.-Sgt. Evyatar Turgeman, 20, from Beit She'an, was killed on July 18 morning in a firefight with terrorists in Gaza. Turgeman served in the Paratroopers Brigade.
NCO Ohad Shemesh, 27, from Beit Elazari was killed in action on July 17 from enemy fire in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Oded Ben Sira, 22, from Nir Etzion served in the Nahal brigade. He was killed on July 17 in clashes with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Jordan Bensemhoun, 22, from Ashkelon served in the Golani Brigade. He was killed on July 17 in an exchange of fire with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Yuval Dagan, 22, from Kfar Saba served in the Golani Brigade. He was killed on July 17 in an exchange of fire with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Tal Yifrah, 21, from Rishon Lezion, served in the Golani Brigade. He was killed on July 17 in an exchange of fire with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
Chief Warrant Officer Kasahun Baynesian, 39, of Netivot served in the Northern Brigade of the Gaza Division. He was one of four soldiers killed when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad, which used a cross-border tunnel to infiltrate southern Israel on July 17.
Sec.-Lt. Yuval Haiman, 21, of Efrat, was a soldier from the Bahad 1 officer training base. He was killed on July 17 when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad.
Sgt. Nadav Goldmacher, 23, of Beersheba soldier from the Bahad 1 training base was killed on July 17 when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad.
Lt.-Col. Dolev Keidar, 38, of Modi'in, was commander of the Gefen Battalion of the IDF’s Bahad 1 officer training base. He was killed when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad on July 17.
Stf.-Sgt. Shachar Tase, 20, from Pardesiya, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Stf.-Sgt. Daniel Pomerantz, 20, of Kfar Azar, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Sgt. Shon Mondshine, 19, of Tel Aviv, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Sgt. Ben Oanounou, 19, from Ashdod, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Stf.-Sgt. Oren Simcha Noah, 22, of Hoshaya, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
St.-Sgt. Oron Shaul, 21, from Poriyah served in the Golani Brigade and was in the infantry APC targeted by Hamas in an attack in Gaza on Sunday. St.-Sgt. Shaul's body remains unaccounted for.
Oron Shaul
St. Sgt. Moshe Malko, 20, of Jerusalem was a Golani combat soldier killed during IDF operations in the Shejaia neighborhood in Gaza on Sunday morning.
Sgt. Max Steinberg, 24, a lone soldier from Woodland Hills, California who lived in Beersheba, was killed in action overnight Sunday. Steinberg was a Golani brigade sharpshooter.
St.-Sgt. Gilad Rozenthal Yacoby, 21, of Kiryat Ono, was killed in action in Gaza on Sunday along with 12 other soldiers and officers in the Golani Brigade.
Capt. Tsvi Kaplan, 28, of Kibbutz Merav, was killed on Sunday in Gaza. Kaplan was set to become a company commander in the Golani Brigade in the coming months.
Maj. Tzafrir Bar-Or, 32, from Acre, was killed on Sunday in Gaza. Since his conscription in the IDF, Bar-Or served in the Golani Brigade through numerous conflicts in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank.
Sgt. Nissim Sean Carmeli, 21, a lone soldier from South Padre, Texas who lived in Ra’anana and served in the Golani Brigade, was killed on Sunday.
St. Sgt. Oz Mendelovich, 21, of Atzmon in northern Israel served in Golani. He was killed on Sunday in Gaza.
2nd-Lt. Bar Rahav, 21, from Ramat Yishai served in the Combat Engineering Corps and was mortally wounded on Saturday as a result of an anti-tank missile fired at an IDF vehicle in southern Gaza.
St. Sgt. Bnaya Rubel, 20, from Holon, served in the Paratroopers 101st Battalion. He was shot dead by a terrorist in Gaza who emerged from a tunnel shaft and opened fire at soldiers.
Maj.(res.) Amotz Greenberg, 45, of Hod Hasharon was killed on Saturday morning trying to stop Hamas infiltrators who had crossed Israel’s southern border through a tunnel.
Sgt. Adar Barsano, 20, from Nahariya was killed in action on Saturday when his patrol unit encountered a Hamas terrorist cell that had infiltrated into Israel close to the Gaza border.
St.-Sgt. Eitan Barak, 20, of Herzliya was killed at around 3 a.m. on Friday morning, becoming the first fatality since the IDF ground offensive began Thursday night. A combat soldier in the Nahal Brigade, the circumstances of his death were under investigation.
Sumber :
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prote...-Israel-368493
Dokumentasi nih, bagi yang penasaran bagaimana prajurit IDF berguguran
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=022_1405972228
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JUMLAH TENTARA YANG "TEWAS" VERSI QUICK COUNT = 63
JUMLAH TENTARA YANG "TERLUKA" VERSI QUICK COUNT = unknown
total pasukan 40.000 personel
diambil dari rilis media massa israel
kenapa quick count ?? ... karena bisa saja bertambah dari prajurit yang terluka dan kemudian meninggal saat di rawat.
Update terbaru :
Well karena semakin banyak yang berguguran maka akan di list saja disini :
Quote:
Sec.-Lt. Hadar Goldin, 23, of Kfar Saba, was killed in battle in Gaza on August 1.
Major Benaya Sarel, 26, of Kiryat Arba, an officer in the Givati Brigade was killed on August 1 during
clashes with terrorists in southern Gaza.
St.-Sgt. Liel Gidoni, 20, of Jerusalem, a soldier in the Givati Brigade was killed on August 1 during clashes with terrorists in southern Gaza.
Sergeant First Class (res.) Daniel Marash, 22, of Rishon Lezion, a reservist combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
Capt. (res.) Liran Adir (Edry), 31, of Ezuz, a reservist combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Noam Rosenthal, 20, of Meitar. a combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
Capt. Omri Tal, 22, of Yehud, a combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Shay Kushnir, 20, of Kiryat Motzkin, a combat soldier in the Armored Corps was killed in a Hamas mortar attack in the Eshkol region on July 31, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Guy Algranati, 20, of Tel Aviv was killed in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft in southern Gaza on July 30. He served in the elite Maglan infantry unit.
St.-Sgt. Omer Hay, 21, of Savyon was killed in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft in southern Gaza on July 30. He served in the elite Maglan infantry unit.
St.-Sgt. Matan Gotlib, 21, of Rishon Lezion was killed in a booby-trapped tunnel shaft in southern Gaza on July 30. He served in the elite Maglan infantry unit.
Sergeant Daniel Kedmi, 18, of Tzofim, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sergeant Barkai Yishai Shor, 21, of Jerusalem, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sergeant Sagi Erez, 19, of Kiryat Ata, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sergeant Dor Deri, 18, killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Sgt. Nadav Raimond, 19, from Shadmot Dvora, was killed in an attempted infiltration into Israel on Monday via a cross-border tunnel from Gaza, on July 28.
Corporal Niran Cohen, 20 of Tiberias. Served in the 7th Armor Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
Corporal Meidan Maymon Biton, 20 of Netivot. Served in the 7th Armored Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
St.Sgt. Eliav Eliyahu Haim Kahlon, 22 of Safed. Served in the 7th Armor Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
Sgt. First Class Adi Briga, 23 of Beit Shikma. Served in the 7th Armor Brigade, killed by a mortar attack on Eshkol, on July 28.
St.-Sgt. Moshe Davino, 20, of Jerusalem was killed in action inside Gaza on July 29.
NCO Sgt. First Class Barak Refael Degorker, 27, from Gan Yavne, was killed after he was struck by a mortar shell fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
Captain Liad Lavi, an officer in an infantry unit, died on July 26 after he was hospitalized from wounds he had sustained in the southern Gaza Strip on July 25.
Chief Warrant Officer Rami Kahlon, 39, a non-commissioned officer serving in the Paratroopers Brigade, died after succumbing to wounds he had sustained in Gaza the week before.
Lt. Roy Peles, 21, from Tel Aviv, served in the Nahal Brigade and was killed when an anti-tank missile struck his position in Gaza early on Saturday.
St.-Sgt. Avraham Grintzvaig, 21, from Petah Tikva, served in the Nahal Brigade and was killed early on Saturday in combat in northern Gaza.
St.-Sgt. Gal Bason, 21, from Holon, served in the Engineering Corps. He was killed in the northern Gaza Strip early on Saturday.
St.-Sgt. Guy Boyland, 21, from Ginosar, a combat engineer, was killed in a firefight with Hamas gunmen on July 25 in the southern Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Amit Yaori, 20, from Jerusalem, was in the Engineering Corps. He was killed on Friday in the same battle as Boyland.
St.-Sgt. Guy Levy, 21, from Kfar Vradim in northern Israel was killed in action Friday afternoon, July 25, in central Gaza while serving the Armored Corps.
NCO Master Sgt. (res.) Yair Ashkenazy, 36, from Rehovot, a reserve soldier serving in the reserves brigade of the Bahad 1 officer training base, was killed in battle in the north Gaza Strip early on the morning of July 25, 2014.
Lt. Paz Eliyahu, 22, from Kibbutz Evron, a Paratroopers officer, was killed when an explosive detonated near his position on July 23, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Li Mat, 19, from Eilat, a Paratroopers soldier, was killed when an explosive detonated near his position on July 23, 2014.
St.-Sgt. Shahar Dauber, 20, from Kibbutz Ginegar, a Paratroopers soldier, was killed when an explosive detonated near his position on July 23, 2014.
Captain Natan Cohen, 23, from Modi'in, a company commander in the Armored Corps was killed in Gaza on Tuesday, July 22. He was promoted from the rank of Lieutenant posthumously.
Captain Dmitri Levitas, 26, from Jerusalem and Geshur, was killed by sniper fire in Gaza on Tuesday, July 22. He was a company commander serving in the Armored Corps.
St.-Sgt. Evyatar Turgeman, 20, from Beit She'an, was killed on July 18 morning in a firefight with terrorists in Gaza. Turgeman served in the Paratroopers Brigade.
NCO Ohad Shemesh, 27, from Beit Elazari was killed in action on July 17 from enemy fire in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Oded Ben Sira, 22, from Nir Etzion served in the Nahal brigade. He was killed on July 17 in clashes with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Jordan Bensemhoun, 22, from Ashkelon served in the Golani Brigade. He was killed on July 17 in an exchange of fire with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Yuval Dagan, 22, from Kfar Saba served in the Golani Brigade. He was killed on July 17 in an exchange of fire with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
St.-Sgt. Tal Yifrah, 21, from Rishon Lezion, served in the Golani Brigade. He was killed on July 17 in an exchange of fire with terrorists in the Gaza Strip.
Chief Warrant Officer Kasahun Baynesian, 39, of Netivot served in the Northern Brigade of the Gaza Division. He was one of four soldiers killed when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad, which used a cross-border tunnel to infiltrate southern Israel on July 17.
Sec.-Lt. Yuval Haiman, 21, of Efrat, was a soldier from the Bahad 1 officer training base. He was killed on July 17 when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad.
Sgt. Nadav Goldmacher, 23, of Beersheba soldier from the Bahad 1 training base was killed on July 17 when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad.
Lt.-Col. Dolev Keidar, 38, of Modi'in, was commander of the Gefen Battalion of the IDF’s Bahad 1 officer training base. He was killed when his military jeep was hit with an anti-tank missile fired by a Gazan terrorist squad on July 17.
Stf.-Sgt. Shachar Tase, 20, from Pardesiya, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Stf.-Sgt. Daniel Pomerantz, 20, of Kfar Azar, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Sgt. Shon Mondshine, 19, of Tel Aviv, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Sgt. Ben Oanounou, 19, from Ashdod, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
Stf.-Sgt. Oren Simcha Noah, 22, of Hoshaya, served in the Golani Brigade and was killed when Hamas terrorists targeted his APC in Gaza.
St.-Sgt. Oron Shaul, 21, from Poriyah served in the Golani Brigade and was in the infantry APC targeted by Hamas in an attack in Gaza on Sunday. St.-Sgt. Shaul's body remains unaccounted for.
Oron Shaul
St. Sgt. Moshe Malko, 20, of Jerusalem was a Golani combat soldier killed during IDF operations in the Shejaia neighborhood in Gaza on Sunday morning.
Sgt. Max Steinberg, 24, a lone soldier from Woodland Hills, California who lived in Beersheba, was killed in action overnight Sunday. Steinberg was a Golani brigade sharpshooter.
St.-Sgt. Gilad Rozenthal Yacoby, 21, of Kiryat Ono, was killed in action in Gaza on Sunday along with 12 other soldiers and officers in the Golani Brigade.
Capt. Tsvi Kaplan, 28, of Kibbutz Merav, was killed on Sunday in Gaza. Kaplan was set to become a company commander in the Golani Brigade in the coming months.
Maj. Tzafrir Bar-Or, 32, from Acre, was killed on Sunday in Gaza. Since his conscription in the IDF, Bar-Or served in the Golani Brigade through numerous conflicts in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank.
Sgt. Nissim Sean Carmeli, 21, a lone soldier from South Padre, Texas who lived in Ra’anana and served in the Golani Brigade, was killed on Sunday.
St. Sgt. Oz Mendelovich, 21, of Atzmon in northern Israel served in Golani. He was killed on Sunday in Gaza.
2nd-Lt. Bar Rahav, 21, from Ramat Yishai served in the Combat Engineering Corps and was mortally wounded on Saturday as a result of an anti-tank missile fired at an IDF vehicle in southern Gaza.
St. Sgt. Bnaya Rubel, 20, from Holon, served in the Paratroopers 101st Battalion. He was shot dead by a terrorist in Gaza who emerged from a tunnel shaft and opened fire at soldiers.
Maj.(res.) Amotz Greenberg, 45, of Hod Hasharon was killed on Saturday morning trying to stop Hamas infiltrators who had crossed Israel’s southern border through a tunnel.
Sgt. Adar Barsano, 20, from Nahariya was killed in action on Saturday when his patrol unit encountered a Hamas terrorist cell that had infiltrated into Israel close to the Gaza border.
St.-Sgt. Eitan Barak, 20, of Herzliya was killed at around 3 a.m. on Friday morning, becoming the first fatality since the IDF ground offensive began Thursday night. A combat soldier in the Nahal Brigade, the circumstances of his death were under investigation.
Sumber :
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prote...-Israel-368493
Quote:
Dokumentasi nih, bagi yang penasaran bagaimana prajurit IDF berguguran
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=022_1405972228
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Sebenernya justru hamas dluan gan
tapi blom diupdate lagi
http://www.qassam.ps/martyrs.html
dan emang bener tujuannya biar ada rasa bangga dan dihormati..terutama bagi keluarga yang ditinggalkan
biar gak ketahuan gan sama mata2..ntar rumahnya di bomb lagi
btw dari video IDF yang repel infiltrasi hamas...dari 3 video yang gw liat mereka pada lepas topeng kok.
keknya gara2 emang udah siap misi "bunuh diri" (bukan bunuh diri kek milisi sebelah loh ya )
Sebenernya justru hamas dluan gan
tapi blom diupdate lagihttp://www.qassam.ps/martyrs.html
dan emang bener tujuannya biar ada rasa bangga dan dihormati..terutama bagi keluarga yang ditinggalkan
biar gak ketahuan gan sama mata2..ntar rumahnya di bomb lagi
btw dari video IDF yang repel infiltrasi hamas...dari 3 video yang gw liat mereka pada lepas topeng kok.
keknya gara2 emang udah siap misi "bunuh diri" (bukan bunuh diri kek milisi sebelah loh ya )
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Pembahasan mengenai memindahkan state of israel to USA sudah lama, artikel yang gua cek bahkan ada yang diterbitkan tahun 2002, mungkin ada yang lebih lama lagi. Ketika kamu mempertanyakan "Apakah penduduk mau terima ?" kenapa kamu tidak juga mempertanyakan duit "penduduk amerika yang diambil dari pajak" yang digelontorkan setiap tahunnya kenegara yang ribuan mil jauhnya, apakah "penduduk yang duitnya diambil setiap tahun sebesar 3 Miliar US dollar" mau terima ??", biarpun urusan politik tapi duitnya bukan duit politisi USA tetapi duit warga negaranya.
Logikanya kalau mereka terima dan senang - senang aja ya tentu tidak akan ada yang melontarkan ide itu, tetapi ketika ide itu dilontarkan dari dalam negeri amerika sendiri, tentu itu memberikan pertanyaan tentang kebijakan pemerintah USA yang menjadi pertanyaan warganya.
Orang - orang arab sudah lama ada di indonesia, sebagian propinsi di indonesia juga memiliki kampung arab, tinggal pertanyaannya apakah mereka orang arab baru pindah itu mampu menyesuaikan gaya hidup dari yang sebelumnya di daerah gurun ke daerah hutan hujan tropis.
sayangnya kenyataan memberikan jawabannya, indonesia bagi sebagian imigran mungkin hanya dijadikan tempat singgah sebelum pergi ke australia karena ekonomi dan kesejahteraan serta pendidikan australia lebih baik dari indonesia.
dalam sejarahpun saat perang vietnam, indonesia menampung pengungsi yang melarikan diri di zaman pak soeharto, tapi setelah perang mereka kembali pulang kampung. Jadi bisa saja pengungsi dari arab sana ke indonesia. Tokh indonesia sudah membuktikan kalau imigran tionghoapun bisa hidup di indonesia, apalagi yang sesama muslim saya yakin bisa.
Kalau kamu enggak suka foxnews ya itu urusan kamu, saya hanya menunjukan saja ....
http://washingtonnote.com/make_israel_a_s/l
Pembahasan mengenai memindahkan state of israel to USA sudah lama, artikel yang gua cek bahkan ada yang diterbitkan tahun 2002, mungkin ada yang lebih lama lagi. Ketika kamu mempertanyakan "Apakah penduduk mau terima ?" kenapa kamu tidak juga mempertanyakan duit "penduduk amerika yang diambil dari pajak" yang digelontorkan setiap tahunnya kenegara yang ribuan mil jauhnya, apakah "penduduk yang duitnya diambil setiap tahun sebesar 3 Miliar US dollar" mau terima ??", biarpun urusan politik tapi duitnya bukan duit politisi USA tetapi duit warga negaranya.
Logikanya kalau mereka terima dan senang - senang aja ya tentu tidak akan ada yang melontarkan ide itu, tetapi ketika ide itu dilontarkan dari dalam negeri amerika sendiri, tentu itu memberikan pertanyaan tentang kebijakan pemerintah USA yang menjadi pertanyaan warganya.
Orang - orang arab sudah lama ada di indonesia, sebagian propinsi di indonesia juga memiliki kampung arab, tinggal pertanyaannya apakah mereka orang arab baru pindah itu mampu menyesuaikan gaya hidup dari yang sebelumnya di daerah gurun ke daerah hutan hujan tropis.
sayangnya kenyataan memberikan jawabannya, indonesia bagi sebagian imigran mungkin hanya dijadikan tempat singgah sebelum pergi ke australia karena ekonomi dan kesejahteraan serta pendidikan australia lebih baik dari indonesia.
dalam sejarahpun saat perang vietnam, indonesia menampung pengungsi yang melarikan diri di zaman pak soeharto, tapi setelah perang mereka kembali pulang kampung. Jadi bisa saja pengungsi dari arab sana ke indonesia. Tokh indonesia sudah membuktikan kalau imigran tionghoapun bisa hidup di indonesia, apalagi yang sesama muslim saya yakin bisa.
Kalau kamu enggak suka foxnews ya itu urusan kamu, saya hanya menunjukan saja ....
http://washingtonnote.com/make_israel_a_s/l
hehe, itu article khan, nah kalo senate dah bahas gituan, berarti dah hot news..
semua bisa tulis article,,, termasuk loe , gua dan org lain...
kenapa gak tanya sama federal aja situ?
susah dibahas disini, kalo gua debat sama org londo mamarika, mungkin lebih bisa objective, karena mereka londo mamarika, bukan londo non mamarika.
gua mau jelaskan, but musti ceritain background semua...
sekarang gua tanya simple, apakah situ dah tau. katakanlah 80% gak setuju gelontorin duit hehehe....
coba kalo ada ginian, yah senate pasti bahas ginian banget.
mau terima or not terserah penduduk mamarika aja, seperti gua katakan,. apakah majority penduduk mamarika gak setuju?
silaken, gua juga tunjukin pendapat gua tentang foxnews. that is not your business khan, gua fair aja, apa yang gua gak suka sama foxnews yang beritanya bombastis, kaya majalah OborRakyat kalo :P.
situ bisa kasih links tentang make Israel state. but!!
apakah penduduk dan state mamarika setuju dan manut2 aja? seperti gua sebut sbelumnya..
this is useless argument kasih links, trus copas, trus gak tahu situasi yang ada terjadi kenyataanya.
sekarang gua tanya balik lagi ke 2 kali
apakah loe mau Israel dikasih ke pulau2 Indonesia yang banyak kosongnya. lupakan kebencian dulu.
atau gua improvise dengan Israel or palesitna pindah ke pulau2 indonesia yang kosong.
please jawab dengan Yes or NO, dan simple conclusion.
gak usah bawa2 bla bla bla2...
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