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Original Posted By nanashi►Betul gan, pembanding dari massa jenis lebih masuk akal (menurut ane) daripada harus "melukai" koin yang kita curigai, btw yg jual jika dituntut penipuan saya dia tidak salah total, karena dalam koin perayaan atau bukan fine silver biasanya tertulis 100 mills, clad, plated, replica,
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Ada juga cara test dengan cara ping, yakni dengan dibunyikan, hasil ping test ini yang asli akan berbunyi lebih nyaring dan lebih lama durasinya,
Bukti bahwa kita memiliki silver fisik yaitu kita sudah bisa memegang dan menyimpan di tempat pribadi, kalau hanya bukti kepemilikan berupa kertas saya rasa tidak ada bedanya dengan SLV atau uang kertas gan
anehnya di negara kita ini yang notabene banyak hasil tambang tapi antam hanya jual emas saja sedangkan tambang2 yang lain langsung ke broker gede atau export, bila UU pelarangan ekspor bahan tambang mentah jadi direalisasikan tahun 2014 saya rasa pasar silver sudah liquid, karena antam sudah tidak bisa lagi seenaknya ekspor biji silver keluar negeri
Iya gan ane dah 2 minggu lebih kunci harga, tapi belum dikasi silvernya T_T
apa ini gejala trendingnya disitu2 aja, alias belum bullish?

sumber gambar dimari
Ada juga cara test dengan cara ping, yakni dengan dibunyikan, hasil ping test ini yang asli akan berbunyi lebih nyaring dan lebih lama durasinya,
Bukti bahwa kita memiliki silver fisik yaitu kita sudah bisa memegang dan menyimpan di tempat pribadi, kalau hanya bukti kepemilikan berupa kertas saya rasa tidak ada bedanya dengan SLV atau uang kertas gan
anehnya di negara kita ini yang notabene banyak hasil tambang tapi antam hanya jual emas saja sedangkan tambang2 yang lain langsung ke broker gede atau export, bila UU pelarangan ekspor bahan tambang mentah jadi direalisasikan tahun 2014 saya rasa pasar silver sudah liquid, karena antam sudah tidak bisa lagi seenaknya ekspor biji silver keluar negeri
Iya gan ane dah 2 minggu lebih kunci harga, tapi belum dikasi silvernya T_T
apa ini gejala trendingnya disitu2 aja, alias belum bullish?
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Original Posted By nanashi►Sekedar sharing aja, buat agan2 yg demen koin luar khususnya coin panda dari China, ane nemu info menarik, mohon dicermati, bila berkenan mohon cendol gan he he he 
Langsung aja ane mau kasih penampakan antara koin yang asli dan yang palsu dan deskripsinya (dalam bahasa inggris)
1982 - Off To A Bad Start - NEW!
1982 is a special year for Panda coins as it is the first year of issue. Unfortunately, the 1982's have been counterfeited just like so many other Pandas. Below are comparisons of a genuine 1/4 oz. gold Panda with a fake one. In particular note the pattern in the steps on the Temple of Heaven of the bogus bear this area should be smooth and clear in a real coin. Careful examination will reveal many clues to the bad coin's true status. For instance, compare the distance on the reverse (Panda side) between the rim and the end of the bamboo branch. The fake coin is also thicker than a genuine Panda.
Counterfeit gold Panda is on the RIGHT SIDE.
Photos courtesy of Greg W.
Yang ASLI di sebelah KIRI, yang PALSU di sebelah KANAN
2000 - Mirror, mirror on the wall,
who is the nastiest fake of all?
I don't believe I have ever seen a single fake Panda date cause as much harm as the latest counterfeit versions of the 2000 silver mirror Panda. A genuine mirror coin is quite rare and valuable, probably worth north of $500. As a result buyers are always on the alert for a coin that may have been overlooked. That has been the undoing of hundreds of collectors and dealers alike because there are dozens, perhaps hundreds of fake mirror coins for every real one. It is imperative that any prospective buyer know the differences between the fakes and the real McCoys.
There are at least two different counterfeit 2000 mirror version on the market. Let's inspect one of them:
Yang ASLI disebelah KANAN yang PALSU di sebelah KIRI
A. The Temple is too narrow between levels
B. The texture is too rough. This can most easily be seen in highlights in the fields; there is a noticeable texture in the silver-plated coin.
C. The numerals of the date are shaped wrong
D. Once again the texture is too rough. A genuine coin has a lovely, creamy-smooth surface.
E. The hair pattern on the legs is coarser than the original's
F. The silver plating has gaps in it that leave dark spots. This is a very important indicator of a fake with these coins.
Kelanjutannya nanti sore ya gan

Langsung aja ane mau kasih penampakan antara koin yang asli dan yang palsu dan deskripsinya (dalam bahasa inggris)
1982 - Off To A Bad Start - NEW!
1982 is a special year for Panda coins as it is the first year of issue. Unfortunately, the 1982's have been counterfeited just like so many other Pandas. Below are comparisons of a genuine 1/4 oz. gold Panda with a fake one. In particular note the pattern in the steps on the Temple of Heaven of the bogus bear this area should be smooth and clear in a real coin. Careful examination will reveal many clues to the bad coin's true status. For instance, compare the distance on the reverse (Panda side) between the rim and the end of the bamboo branch. The fake coin is also thicker than a genuine Panda.
Counterfeit gold Panda is on the RIGHT SIDE.
Photos courtesy of Greg W.
Spoiler for 1982:
Spoiler for 1982:
Yang ASLI di sebelah KIRI, yang PALSU di sebelah KANAN
2000 - Mirror, mirror on the wall,
who is the nastiest fake of all?
I don't believe I have ever seen a single fake Panda date cause as much harm as the latest counterfeit versions of the 2000 silver mirror Panda. A genuine mirror coin is quite rare and valuable, probably worth north of $500. As a result buyers are always on the alert for a coin that may have been overlooked. That has been the undoing of hundreds of collectors and dealers alike because there are dozens, perhaps hundreds of fake mirror coins for every real one. It is imperative that any prospective buyer know the differences between the fakes and the real McCoys.
There are at least two different counterfeit 2000 mirror version on the market. Let's inspect one of them:
Spoiler for 200010y:
Yang ASLI disebelah KANAN yang PALSU di sebelah KIRI
A. The Temple is too narrow between levels
B. The texture is too rough. This can most easily be seen in highlights in the fields; there is a noticeable texture in the silver-plated coin.
C. The numerals of the date are shaped wrong
D. Once again the texture is too rough. A genuine coin has a lovely, creamy-smooth surface.
E. The hair pattern on the legs is coarser than the original's
F. The silver plating has gaps in it that leave dark spots. This is a very important indicator of a fake with these coins.
Kelanjutannya nanti sore ya gan
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Original Posted By nanashi►Below is the second version. It has better details like the Pandas fur pattern. This version has really fooled a lot of people but it has one huge flaw that makes it easy to spot: the silver plating doesn't cover the area near the 1 oz. completely. I call this the Black Spot of Death (re: Treasure Island). If you see it you know the coin is counterfeit.
Yang KIRI adalah yang PALSU, yang KANAN adalah ASLI
1,999 Bears on a Wall,
If one of those bears should happen to fall...
Because the 1999 silver Large Date Without Serif Pandas have gained in value it is particularly important to be able to recognize the latest, improved version of silver-plated fake. Fortunately there are lots of clues if you know where to look. Let's examine the coins point by point:
A. The gap between the 10 and the edge is too narrow in the counterfeit
B. The gap between the "Ag" and the edge is too narrow in the counterfeit
C. The fur pattern on the foreleg is wrong. It is also frosted when it should be reflective.
D. The Temple is too narrow between levels
E. The texture is too rough. This can most easily be seen in highlights in the fields; there is a noticeable texture in the silver-plated coin.
F. The numbers in 1999 are spaced too closely together
Yang KIRI adalah PALSU yang KANAN adalah ASLI
These six check points make detecting a counterfeit coin fairly easy. If even one element is wrong, avoid the coin. Remember though, there are three different genuine varieties of 1999 Pandas: Large Date Without Serif, Large Date With Serif and Small Date. Point F only refers to Large Date Without Serif Pandas; the other two genuine Pandas have different looking dates.
2003 - Bears that go bump
There are a number of elements that give away this counterfeit 2003 1 oz. silver Panda. The coin lacks the razor sharp details of the real McCoy. Closely examine the circled area on the left leg and see how blurry the fur is compared to the original coin's sharp, well defined pattern.
Yang ATAS adalah PALSU, yang ASLI berada di BAWAH
Spoiler for 200010y:
Yang KIRI adalah yang PALSU, yang KANAN adalah ASLI
1,999 Bears on a Wall,
If one of those bears should happen to fall...
Because the 1999 silver Large Date Without Serif Pandas have gained in value it is particularly important to be able to recognize the latest, improved version of silver-plated fake. Fortunately there are lots of clues if you know where to look. Let's examine the coins point by point:
A. The gap between the 10 and the edge is too narrow in the counterfeit
B. The gap between the "Ag" and the edge is too narrow in the counterfeit
C. The fur pattern on the foreleg is wrong. It is also frosted when it should be reflective.
D. The Temple is too narrow between levels
E. The texture is too rough. This can most easily be seen in highlights in the fields; there is a noticeable texture in the silver-plated coin.
F. The numbers in 1999 are spaced too closely together
Spoiler for 199910y:
Yang KIRI adalah PALSU yang KANAN adalah ASLI
These six check points make detecting a counterfeit coin fairly easy. If even one element is wrong, avoid the coin. Remember though, there are three different genuine varieties of 1999 Pandas: Large Date Without Serif, Large Date With Serif and Small Date. Point F only refers to Large Date Without Serif Pandas; the other two genuine Pandas have different looking dates.
2003 - Bears that go bump
There are a number of elements that give away this counterfeit 2003 1 oz. silver Panda. The coin lacks the razor sharp details of the real McCoy. Closely examine the circled area on the left leg and see how blurry the fur is compared to the original coin's sharp, well defined pattern.
Spoiler for 200310y:
Yang ATAS adalah PALSU, yang ASLI berada di BAWAH
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