• Beranda
  • ...
  • English
  • All about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!

Olli3Avatar border
TS
Olli3
All about Grammar & Tenses - The correct way to say/use .... ask it here !!
Well, Helloooo ^^

I've noticed some mistranslation or misused words, phrases, etc here and there. And instead of posting it somewhere at the available threads to avoid the chance of having it lost or forgotten, I just thought it would be great if it had its own thread. I hope it's OK with you, Mod emoticon-Smilie

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, I know sometimes we translate literally from Indo to English. I know I did, well I do...sometimes emoticon-Wink So here are the correct way to say some in English:

-Thanks before = emoticon-thumbdown
-Thanks in advance, thanks beforehand = emoticon-thumbsup:
*
-Beside of that = emoticon-thumbdown
-Besides = emoticon-thumbsup:
*
-Worthed = emoticon-thumbdown
-Worth it = emoticon-thumbsup:

Using "Worth" in a sentence:
-It is worth more than a penny = emoticon-thumbsup:
-That thing is not worth doing = emoticon-thumbsup:
-It worths more than a penny = emoticon-thumbdown
*
Here's funny one and I still can't believe people still use it. emoticon-Wink

A: Thank you.
B: Come back, same-same = emoticon-thumbdown

A: Thank you
B: You're welcome, no problem, don't mention it, don't worry about it = emoticon-thumbsup:
*
A friend of mine said this a while back:

I'm going to leave too long for me to tell you when I will be home.

Bemused at first, then finally understood what he meant. So, the best way:

I'm going to leave indefinitely
*
-I'm going walking-walking at the beach = emoticon-thumbdown
-I'm taking a stroll along the beach = emoticon-thumbsup:
*
-He ran like he was chased by a ghost = emoticon-thumbdown
-He ran as if he was chased by a ghost = emoticon-thumbsup:

How to use Like? Don't use it as a conjunction. Usually Like is followed by an object.
E.g. He looks like you.
*
-Do you want to eat outside? = emoticon-thumbdown
-Do you want to eat out? = emoticon-thumbsup:

#1: Loose for lose
emoticon-thumbdown I always loose the product key.
emoticon-thumbsup: I always lose the product key.

#2: It's for its (or god forbid, its'emoticon-Wink
emoticon-thumbdown Download the HTA, along with it's readme file.
emoticon-thumbsup: Download the HTA, along with its readme file.

emoticon-thumbdown The laptop is overheating and its making that funny noise again.
emoticon-thumbsup: The laptop is overheating and it's making that funny noise again.

#3: They're for their for there
emoticon-thumbdown The managers are in they're weekly planning meeting.
emoticon-thumbsup: The managers are in their weekly planning meeting.

emoticon-thumbdown The techs have to check there cell phones at the door, and their not happy about it.
emoticon-thumbsup: The techs have to check their cell phones at the door, and they're not happy about it.

#4: i.e. for e.g.
emoticon-thumbdown Use an anti-spyware program (i.e., Ad-Aware).
emoticon-thumbsup: Use an anti-spyware program (e.g., Ad-Aware).
Note:
The term i.e. means "that is"; e.g. means "for example". And a comma follows both of them.


#5: Effect for affect
emoticon-thumbdown The outage shouldn't effect any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage shouldn't have any effect on users.
emoticon-thumbsup: We will effect several changes during the downtime.

Note:
Impact is not a verb. Purists, at least, beg you to use affect instead.

emoticon-thumbdown The outage shouldn't impact any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
emoticon-thumbsup: The outage should have no impact on users during work hours.

#6: You're for your
emoticon-thumbdown Remember to defrag you're machine on a regular basis.
emoticon-thumbsup: Remember to defrag your machine on a regular basis.

emoticon-thumbdown Your right about the changes.
emoticon-thumbsup: You're right about the changes.

#7: Different than for different from
emoticon-thumbdown This setup is different than the one at the main office.
emoticon-thumbsup: This setup is different from the one at the main office.
emoticon-thumbsup: This setup is better than the one at the main office.

#8 Lay for lie
emoticon-thumbdown I got dizzy and had to lay down.
emoticon-thumbsup: I got dizzy and had to lie down.
emoticon-thumbsup: Just lay those books over there.

#9: Then for than
emoticon-thumbdown The accounting department had more problems then we did.
emoticon-thumbsup: The accounting department had more problems than we did.

Note:
Here's a sub-peeve. When a sentence construction begins with If, you don't need a then. Then is implicit, so it's superfluous and wordy.

emoticon-thumbdown If you can't get Windows to boot, then you'll need to call Ted.
emoticon-thumbsup: If you can't get Windows to boot, you'll need to call Ted.

#10: Could of, would of for could have, would have
emoticon-thumbdown I could of installed that app by mistake.
emoticon-thumbsup: I could have installed that app by mistake.

emoticon-thumbdown I would of sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.
emoticon-thumbsup: I would have sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.

#11 Entitle for deserve

emoticon-thumbdown He did a lot of bad things in the past. He is entitled to have bad karma.
emoticon-thumbsup: He did a lot of bad things in the past. He deserves bad karma.

Entitle is mostly used to furnish with a right or claim to something/someone, mostly in a good way.
emoticon-thumbsup: The coupon entitles the bearer to a 25 percent savings.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I remember Ross had an argument with the other "Friends" gang about WHO, WHOM, and WHOSE.

WHO is used to ask which person does an action.
E.g. Who is going to pay for it?

WHOM is used to ask which person receives an action.
E.g. Whom did he blame for the loss?

WHOSE is used to ask which person something belongs to.
E.g. Whose Ipod is this?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

English words with disputed usage: (It means they are still debatable, and most of them are not even Standard English but widely used in public.)

A very intriguing question from Waffen-SS:

Comprise, are/is comprised of, constitute, consist of
.

are/is comprised of is still debatable. My suggestion is NOT using it at all.

Comprise ->
1. to include especially within a particular scope;
2. to be made up of;
3. compose, constitute

Consist ->
1. lie, reside (used with in);
2. a. exist, be; b. to be capable of existing;
3. to be compsed or made up (used with of);
4. to be consistent

The programme comprises two short plays. = emoticon-thumbsup:
The programme consisted of two short plays. = emoticon-thumbsup:
The club house constitutes more than 70% of the residents = emoticon-thumbsup:

Rooms comprise a house = disputed usage
A house is comprised of rooms = disputed usage
*

Ain't Originally a contraction of "am not", this word is widely used as a replacement for "aren't", "isn't", "haven't" and "hasn't". It is not a Standard English. Only use it for informal conversation or writings.
*

Alright An alternative to "all right" that some consider illiterate but others allow.
*

GOT for Has/Have

A: What kind of shirt do you got there?
B: I got a black shirt
= Disputed usage, widely used.

A: What kind of shirt do you have there?
B: I have a black shirt.
= emoticon-thumbsup:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Not one of those how to say/use. Just several useful tips to improve your writing skill.

NON-FICTION

#1 Start with a topic. Brainstorming is always a good way to start. Simply make a list of topics you would like to write on a piece of paper.

#2 Please, and by all means, do some research on each of them. Try to gather enough information before you start doing the first draft.

#3 People often make mistakes by squishing in every single word to the essay as an attempt to make it look longer, and that includes rambling about “out of the topic” materials. Just simply focus on one topic. If you think it is too short, move on to the next one. If it’s too broad, vague, then try to get more specific topic.

#4 Begin to write your first draft of the topic of your choice. It’s OK to be messy at first. That’s why we call it, first draft.

#5 Every essay starts with an introduction, contents, and conclusion. Don’t leave your readers hanging by not including the conclusion. One important thing when it comes about writing non-fiction essay, don’t leave your readers with more questions for you to answer.

#6 Check your first draft. Do more research if it’s necessary and begin composing your second draft, third, and so on until you think you are comfortable enough to write your final essay. Remember to always check for misspelled, grammar errors, etc.

#7 Begin typing your final essay.

#8 Voila! You are done!


FICTION

It follows the same pattern, but Fiction has more requirements, such as character development, outtakes, POV, plot, dialogues, setting, and of course…your imagination. Pay attention to the rules as well.

For examples:
-Italic in fiction/novels is to indicate character’s thought process.

-Quotation mark is for dialogues

-And many more.


*Tips:

-Avoid using many who, which, etc.

-Try not to use the same word in one sentence or a paragraph over and over.
Good: "Are you crazy?!" He yelled. I couldn't believe he just bellowed at me.
Bad: "Are you crazy?!" He yelled. I couldn't believe he just yelled at me.

-Try to condense instead of starting a new sentence each time unless you want to use it for a dramatic purpose.
Good: I didn't go to school that day because I was sick.
Bad: I didn't go to school that day. I was sick.

-Lastly, be careful in using dot (.) in your sentence or paragraph. It could be misleading. I think it's better if we just avoid using (......) unless you know how to use it correctly. I know stopping a habit can be pain in the a**, I tend to use it in the wrong context as well (*guilty*)
Good: "He is a ... killer." --> Ellipsis (...) is used to indicate a pause.
Bad: Hello, my name is John........I am a student....... ---> It looks like a fill-in-the-blank, ey?


Generally, Essay should be double-spaced, one inch margins, 10-12 Times New Roman or Arial. Unless, your teacher, or whoever wants it gives you specific instruction.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hope it's useful.

Feel free to add more. Or ask emoticon-Smilie

Thank you for the contribution! (sneepeur, bhre_z, ritzhi)
tien212700
pakisal212
Streinz
Streinz dan 10 lainnya memberi reputasi
11
603.5K
9.3K
GuestAvatar border
Guest
Tulis komentar menarik atau mention replykgpt untuk ngobrol seru
Mari bergabung, dapatkan informasi dan teman baru!
English
EnglishKASKUS Official
3.2KThread2.2KAnggota
Tampilkan semua post
miss.p1nkyAvatar border
miss.p1nky 
#18
Wow capcay-ku 666!!
Quote:


emoticon-Purple Repost

The adalah definite article atau kata sandang tertentu yang sering digunakan dalam bahasa Inggris. Kata the dapat berarti itu.


The selalu diletakkan di depan kata benda atau nomina, dan juga di depan adjektiva atau kata lainnya yang menerangkan kata benda tersebut, contoh: the man, the old man, etc.

Bentuk article the digunakan tanpa membedakan atau berlaku sama untuk kata benda tunggal/jamak, kata benda dapat dihitung/tidak dapat dihitung, maupun gender (jenis kelamin), contoh: the boy, the boys, the woman, the children, the ice, the dust, etc.


Definite article the digunakan:

1. di depan nomina yang telah disebutkan sebelumnya.
- I ordered a pizza and salad. The pizza was nice but the salad was disgusting.
- There were three questions. The first two were relatively easy but the third one was hard.

2. di depan nomina yang unik atau dianggap hanya ada satu, misalnya: the sun, the moon, the world, the earth.

3. di depan nomina atau frase nomina yang menunjukkan seseorang atau sesuatu yang telah ditentukan, misalnya: the dress I wore, the girl in red, the time I met him, the road to Bali, the man that I meet.

4. di depan suatu nomina yang sudah umum diketahui.
- What was the weather like?
- I looked out into the darkness.
- The shops open at 9 o'clock.

5. untuk menunjukkan orang atau objek tertentu yang kita maksud.
- The man who wrote this book is famous.
- Which car did you scratch? The red one.
- My house is the one with a green door.

6. bila satu sama lain, dalam percakapan, mengerti apa yang sedang dibicarakan, meskipun tidak disebutkan sebelumnya.
- Where’s the bathroom? It’s on the first floor.

7. sebelum superlatives, ordinal numbers, dan kata only, misalnya: the highest building, the sweetest thing, the only way, the first page, the last chapter.

8. sebelum adjektiva untuk membentuk nomina (plural) yang menunjukkan orang dengan tipe tertentu atau orang yang tinggal di negara tertentu, misalnya: the poor, the unemployed, the elderly, the British, the French, the impossible, etc.
- He knows he’s wishing for the impossible.
- I thought you might like to read the enclosed.

9. di depan nama laut, sungai, kepulauan, pegunungan, gurun, wilayah, atau tempat yang berkaitan dengan alam atau bumi, misalnya: the Caribbean, the Sahara, the Atlantic, the Pacific Ocean, the Mississippi, the Alps, the gulf of Mexico.

10. di depan nomina yang menunjukkan satuan waktu seperti abad, dekade, dan tanggal, misalnya: the 12th of December, the beginning, in the morning, during the whole year.
- In the thirties unemployment was widespread.
- She remembers the war years.

11. di awal sekelompok nomina dimana pada nomina yang pertama diikuti oleh of phrase atau klausa yang menunjukkan sesuatu atau seseorang.
- There has been a slight increase in the consumption of meat.
- Of the 9,660 cases processed last year, only 10 per cent were totally rejected.

12. dapat menggantikan possessive determiner, terutama saat membicarakan anggota sebuah keluarga atau bagian tubuh seseorang.
- I patted him on the head.
- “How’s the family?” – “Just fine, thank you”.

13. pada nama alat musik saat membicarakan kemampuan seseorang memainkan alat musik tersebut.
- She was trying to teach him to play the guitar.
- He plays the violin.

14. di depan nomina tunggal (singular noun) saat membuat pernyataan umum yang mewakili golongan atau tipe dari sesuatu atau seseorang tertentu.
- The tiger is without doubt the most magnificent of the big cats.
- The computer has changed everyone’s lives in so many ways.

15. untuk menunjukkan suatu keluarga atau pasangan suami istri dengan menyebutkan nama keluarganya dalam bentuk plural. The diletakkan di depannya.
- The Taylors decided that they would employ an architect to do the work.
- The Johnsons had lived in this house for many years.

16. untuk menunjukkan bahwa sesuatu yang dimiliki itu cukup (enough) untuk melakukan tujuan tertentu.
- I haven’t the time to talk just now.
- He didn’t have the strength to go on fighting.

17. di depan comparative adjectives or adverbs.
- The longer you have been in shape in the past, the quicker you will regain fitness in future.

18. ketika menyatakan suatu nilai, harga dan ukuran, the dipakai untuk menunjukkan berapa banyak unit digunakan pada sesuatu yang diukur/dinilai tersebut.
- New Japanese cars averaged 13 km to the litre in 1981.
- Some analysts predicted that the exchange rate would soon be $2 to the pound.

19. untuk menunjukkan bahwa seseorang atau sesuatu itu sangat penting, terkenal, atau yang terbaik diantara yang lainnya. Dalam percakapan, the diucapkan lebih jelas atau diberi penekanan, sedangkan dalam tulisan diberi garis bawah atau ditulis dalam huruf besar atau huruf miring.
- ‘Elizabeth Taylor was there.’ ‘Not the Elizabeth Taylor, surely?’
- Miami is THE place for girls who like to live life to the full.

20. bersama dengan satuan pengukuran (unit of measurement), the dapat berarti every (setiap/tiap-tiap).
- My car does forty miles to the gallon.
- You get paid by the hour.

21. bersama dengan satuan waktu (unit of time), the dapat berarti sekarang atau saat ini.
- Why not have the dish of the day?
- She’s flavour of the month with him.

22. sebelum nomina yang mengacu pada suatu tindakan atau perubahan, yang juga diikuti oleh kata of.
- the growth of the steel industry
- the arrival of our guests

23. sebelum nomina tunggal (singular noun) yang menunjukkan jenis dari institusi, toko, sistem, dsb.
- You used to buy them from the chemist.
- I heard it on the radio.
- I’ll put it in the mail for you today.

24. untuk mengacu pada bagian dari organ tubuh seseorang.
- Lieutenant Taylor was wounded in the knee.
- How’s the ankle? Is it still hurting?

25. untuk mengacu pada jenis atau even olahraga, terutama atletik atau renang.
- Who won the long jump?
- She swam up and down, practising the crawl.

26. dalam percakapan sebelum suatu kata atau frase yang menggambarkan seseorang atau sesuatu ketika marah, iri, terkejut, dsb.
- He’s stolen my parking space, the bastard!
- I can’t get this carton open, the stupid thing.
- “Jamie’s won a holiday in Hawaii.” “The lucky devil!”

27. sebelum nama penyakit atau sakit tertentu yang lazim kita alami.
- If one of the children got the measles, we all got the measles.
- Aspirin should help reduce the fever.

28. sebelum nama bangunan yang diperuntukkan untuk kepentingan umum.
- the Town Hall
- the Science Museum
0
Ikuti KASKUS di
© 2023 KASKUS, PT Darta Media Indonesia. All rights reserved.