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(ask) strategy perang masa kini
maaf buat om om dan sesepuh penghuni formil raya ini
saya ada pertanyaan om,mengenai stategy perang masa kini,,
ane sebelumnya tidak terlalu tau banyak tentang dunia militer,jadi bila ini adalah pertanyaan bodoh,mohon jangan di bully ya om..
setelah membaca treadnya om denmajalah tentang pertempuran kursk 1943
http://rt.com/news/prokhorovka-wwii-...nk-battle-987/
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dan juga pertempuran antara mesir dengan isreal(perang yom kippur)
dimana, kedua armada perang masing2 negara berhadap hadapan secara face to face
yg melibatkan tank tank kedua negara,dan juga pesawat tempurnya.
tapi,,setelah membaca sekilas tentang invasi amerika ke irak,sepertinya ini agak beda ya gan
dimana,pasukan kavilery,dan pesawat tempurnya amerika tidak seperti pertempuran kursk atau yom kippur..(face to face)
jadi pertanyaan saya adalah:
1,apakah strategy perang yg di pakai amerika dalam menginvasi irak?
2.seperti apakah strategy perang yg baik menurut om om disini,mengingat peralatan perang masa kini sudah canggih2??
3.bila strategy amerika ke irak itu mengawali sebuah strategy baru dalam dunia perang,apakah TNI sudah mengadopsi itu? atau menyesuaikan diri,bila mana kasus seperti irak itu terjadi kepada kita..??
4.sebenarnya,sperti apakah strategy perang kita??
mohon maaf om,,bila pertanyaan ane ini bodoh dan tidak berguna,,saya hanya ingin tau saja,dan bila tread ini tidak bermutu,,mohon di hapus saja om
saya ada pertanyaan om,mengenai stategy perang masa kini,,
ane sebelumnya tidak terlalu tau banyak tentang dunia militer,jadi bila ini adalah pertanyaan bodoh,mohon jangan di bully ya om..
setelah membaca treadnya om denmajalah tentang pertempuran kursk 1943
Spoiler for Kursk,1943 : Battle of Prokhorovka - Perang tank terbesar dalam sejarah:
Quote:
Original Posted By DenMajalah►
When steel crushed steel: 70th anniversary of epic Tank Battle of Prokhorovka
Published time: July 12, 2013 10:34
Edited time: July 12, 2013 12:16
An area hundreds of kilometers around Kursk was turned into a huge military camp swarming with thousands of tanks, artillery and millions of people, both soldiers and civilians, who were constructing fortifications.
The Germans attacked in two directions, from north and south of Kursk, in order to mousetrap the Soviet 5th Army, but met with ferocious resistance and became bogged down by staggered defense.
The major assault started on July 12 and the battle raged on for several days. But the tank inferno took place near Prokhorovka, where two armored spearheads clashed in a battle of mutual annihilation.
According to various sources, the warring tank formations consisting of up to 1,500 tanks (about 800 Soviet and 700 German) were put into action on a very small front - about 20km –long.
A participant of the battle, Hero of the Soviet Union Evgeny Shkurdalov, said later that what he witnessed on July 12 near Prokhorovka was the quintessence of warfare evil.
“Battle formations got mixed. Tanks that sustained direct hits exploded while driving at full speed. Blown off tank turrets and caterpillars flew in the air. Single shots were inaudible as the cannonade fused into a deafening roar. There were moments when due to dense powder fumes we could distinguish our tanks from German only by silhouettes in the smoke. Tank personnel in flames were jumping out of the burning knocked-out tanks and writhing on the ground, trying to put out the fire,” Shkurdalov recalled.
Thousands of bilingual radio commands consisting of the choicest cursing and swearing were saturated with hatred to such an extent that it seemed that airwaves were capable of killing.
“There were moments when tanks were simply ramming each other, running one on top of another,” 90-year-old veteran Abram Ekhilevsky remembers the horrors of the Prokhorovka Battle.
“Everything was burning. Nothing like this ever happened in history of mankind,” he told RT.
Both sides lost hundreds of armored vehicles and thousands of men that day, many of whom were burnt alive in their vehicles or simply disintegrated without a trace in the barrage of cannon fire.
On July 12 neither side achieved its objectives, but the further development of the great engagement left the battlefield for the Soviet troops.
After the Battle of Kursk, German troops did not advance anymore and were only losing previously captured territory till the end of the war in 1945.
Russian historians argue that the defeat in Kursk broke the back of the German military machine and became a turning point of WWII.
Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has proposed establishing a museum of tanks and self-propelled guns that took part in the Battle of Prokhorovka in addition to the existing museum.
“Prokhorovka deserves a permanent exposition,” he said.
Rogozin, who is also Russia’s military industry chief, promised that the Defense Ministry has some vehicles it is ready to share. Other vehicles are expected to be donated from private collections.
“The exposition should be set by the 70th anniversary of Victory in Great Patriotic War [WWII] to be celebrated in 2015, there is plenty of time,” Rogozin said.
When steel crushed steel: 70th anniversary of epic Tank Battle of Prokhorovka
Published time: July 12, 2013 10:34
Edited time: July 12, 2013 12:16
An area hundreds of kilometers around Kursk was turned into a huge military camp swarming with thousands of tanks, artillery and millions of people, both soldiers and civilians, who were constructing fortifications.
The Germans attacked in two directions, from north and south of Kursk, in order to mousetrap the Soviet 5th Army, but met with ferocious resistance and became bogged down by staggered defense.
The major assault started on July 12 and the battle raged on for several days. But the tank inferno took place near Prokhorovka, where two armored spearheads clashed in a battle of mutual annihilation.
According to various sources, the warring tank formations consisting of up to 1,500 tanks (about 800 Soviet and 700 German) were put into action on a very small front - about 20km –long.
A participant of the battle, Hero of the Soviet Union Evgeny Shkurdalov, said later that what he witnessed on July 12 near Prokhorovka was the quintessence of warfare evil.
“Battle formations got mixed. Tanks that sustained direct hits exploded while driving at full speed. Blown off tank turrets and caterpillars flew in the air. Single shots were inaudible as the cannonade fused into a deafening roar. There were moments when due to dense powder fumes we could distinguish our tanks from German only by silhouettes in the smoke. Tank personnel in flames were jumping out of the burning knocked-out tanks and writhing on the ground, trying to put out the fire,” Shkurdalov recalled.
Thousands of bilingual radio commands consisting of the choicest cursing and swearing were saturated with hatred to such an extent that it seemed that airwaves were capable of killing.
“There were moments when tanks were simply ramming each other, running one on top of another,” 90-year-old veteran Abram Ekhilevsky remembers the horrors of the Prokhorovka Battle.
“Everything was burning. Nothing like this ever happened in history of mankind,” he told RT.
Both sides lost hundreds of armored vehicles and thousands of men that day, many of whom were burnt alive in their vehicles or simply disintegrated without a trace in the barrage of cannon fire.
On July 12 neither side achieved its objectives, but the further development of the great engagement left the battlefield for the Soviet troops.
After the Battle of Kursk, German troops did not advance anymore and were only losing previously captured territory till the end of the war in 1945.
Russian historians argue that the defeat in Kursk broke the back of the German military machine and became a turning point of WWII.
Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has proposed establishing a museum of tanks and self-propelled guns that took part in the Battle of Prokhorovka in addition to the existing museum.
“Prokhorovka deserves a permanent exposition,” he said.
Rogozin, who is also Russia’s military industry chief, promised that the Defense Ministry has some vehicles it is ready to share. Other vehicles are expected to be donated from private collections.
“The exposition should be set by the 70th anniversary of Victory in Great Patriotic War [WWII] to be celebrated in 2015, there is plenty of time,” Rogozin said.
http://rt.com/news/prokhorovka-wwii-...nk-battle-987/
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dan juga pertempuran antara mesir dengan isreal(perang yom kippur)
dimana, kedua armada perang masing2 negara berhadap hadapan secara face to face
yg melibatkan tank tank kedua negara,dan juga pesawat tempurnya.
tapi,,setelah membaca sekilas tentang invasi amerika ke irak,sepertinya ini agak beda ya gan
dimana,pasukan kavilery,dan pesawat tempurnya amerika tidak seperti pertempuran kursk atau yom kippur..(face to face)
jadi pertanyaan saya adalah:
1,apakah strategy perang yg di pakai amerika dalam menginvasi irak?
2.seperti apakah strategy perang yg baik menurut om om disini,mengingat peralatan perang masa kini sudah canggih2??
3.bila strategy amerika ke irak itu mengawali sebuah strategy baru dalam dunia perang,apakah TNI sudah mengadopsi itu? atau menyesuaikan diri,bila mana kasus seperti irak itu terjadi kepada kita..??
4.sebenarnya,sperti apakah strategy perang kita??
mohon maaf om,,bila pertanyaan ane ini bodoh dan tidak berguna,,saya hanya ingin tau saja,dan bila tread ini tidak bermutu,,mohon di hapus saja om
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