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Presiden Amerika Serikat (AS) Barack Obama melanggar protokol militer ketika memasuki helikopter Marine One. Tepat setelah salah satu prajurit memberikan hormat kepada Obama di dekat helikopter, Obama justru langsung masuk ke helikopter. Meski demikian, beberapa saat kemudian presiden berkulit hitam itu langsung keluar dari helikopter, menghampiri prajurit itu, dan menyalaminya. Obama tampaknya me
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25-05-2013 20:37

Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )

Presiden Amerika Serikat (AS) Barack Obama melanggar protokol militer ketika memasuki helikopter Marine One. Tepat setelah salah satu prajurit memberikan hormat kepada Obama di dekat helikopter, Obama justru langsung masuk ke helikopter.



Meski demikian, beberapa saat kemudian presiden berkulit hitam itu langsung keluar dari helikopter, menghampiri prajurit itu, dan menyalaminya. Obama tampaknya menyadari kesalahannya karena sudah melanggar protokol. Demikian, seperti diberitakan Daily Mail, Sabtu (25/5/2013).



Ketika menyalami prajurit Marinir itu, Obama pun tampak tersenyum. Obama sepertinya mengutarakan leluconnya ke prajurit itu, karena lupa membalas hormatnya.



Seperti diketahui, pelanggaran protokol itu bukanlah pelanggaran pertama yang dilakukan oleh Obama selaku panglima tertinggi militer. Pada pekan lalu, Obama juga dikritik ketika meminta dua prajurit Marinir yang mengenakan seragam untuk megang payung untuknya saat berpidato Perdana Menteri Turki Recep Tayyip Erdogan.



Pensiunan Angkatan Udara AS, Letjen Thomas McInereney, mengatakan bahwa Presiden AS saat itu sudah menghina Marinir. Para prajurit Marinir yang diminta memegang payung itu terlihat bak seorang pelayan restoran.



"Presiden sudah kehujanan sebelum payung dan Marinir itu datang. Saya rasa hal ini sama saja dengan menghina Marinir," ujar McInerney.

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Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
26-05-2013 21:55
Quote:Original Posted By garandman

This!

Bang Sam, have you ever considered running for a public office? I will help out with your campaign!


Quote:As of the 2012 presidential election, no member of the U.S. Marine Corps or U.S. Coast Guard has yet been elected President. The most frequent military experience is Army/Army Reserve with 15 presidents, followed by State Militias at 9, Navy/Naval Reserve at 6 and the Continental Army with 2 presidents serving.


Bisa mencetak sejarah tuh Bang First from USMC emoticon-Cendol (S)
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Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
27-05-2013 13:26
All hail Gunny Hartman !! emoticon-Blue Guy Peace

Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
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Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
27-05-2013 13:29
next time vote for republic brah......emoticon-Big Grin
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27-05-2013 14:35
agan2 bisa minta infonya gak, knapa sih kok marinir seperti nya jg menjadi pasukan kehormatan di US dibanding kan dengan army nya, bahkan sampai protokoler istana marinir yg berperan bukan army???

mohon ilmu nya gan
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27-05-2013 16:50
kenapa sih kalau dilihat para gun lover seperti NRA selalu berasosiasi ke partai republik, sedangkan partai demokrat tidak dilirik ?
saya berasumsi kalau lihat komen-komen bung garrand dan bung HH sam disisi republik juga ya?
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27-05-2013 17:07
Quote:Original Posted By torres345
agan2 bisa minta infonya gak, knapa sih kok marinir seperti nya jg menjadi pasukan kehormatan di US dibanding kan dengan army nya, bahkan sampai protokoler istana marinir yg berperan bukan army???

mohon ilmu nya gan

Quote:The marine who salutes the president as he leaves Marine One is the crew chief of that helicopter. Marine One is operated by squadron HMX-1. These are selected marines. Truman was the first president to have helicopters at his disposal. He had both Army and Marine Corps helicopers so, at that time there was an Army One when the president was aboard. A decision was made to have one service provide all the helicopter service. Truman selected the Marine Corps as the service to serve the president.

The guards at the White House come from the Marine Security Guard Battalion. The origins of the modern MSG Program began with the Foreign Service Act of 1946 which stated that the Secretary of Navy is authorized, upon the request of the Secretary of State, to assign enlisted Marines to serve as custodians under the supervision of the senior diplomatic officer at an embassy, legation, or consulate. MSG marines have come under fire and returned fired several times just in the last decade.

Marines will fight with a bayonet when they run out of ammmo or with their bare hands if they need to.


http://usmc.yuku.com/topic/21505#.UaMvI9KW98s

Quote:Presidential Guard duty is very hard to find information about. Very few Marines are selected for this duty, and the nature of the job limits the ammount of information available. I have seen a few questions pertaining to this duty here, so I will share some basic information for anyone who is in need. If you need any more information on presidential guard I can tell you everything that I am allowed to.

To answer a few questions that I have seen:

Selection for Presidential Guard is usually done at boot camp. Senior Marines from the Presidential Guard program fly to each boot camp to screen marines for this duty. The initail screening process is long and eliminates most Marines. The screening process starts by bringing all Marines who are 03XX - Infantry to a breif. During the breif, the duty is explained and any Marine who does not wish to join is free to leave. The program is 100% volunteer. All Marines who wish to try out for the program have to meet certain criteria. The Marine can not be married or have any dependants. Criminal records must be relatively clean, but are considered on a case by case basis. The Marine must have a first class PFT score and not be over weight standards. Major debt also disqualifies you from the program. When your Marine makes it through the initial screening, they will proceed to the secondary screening. While at the second screening, each Marine is spoken to on a one to one basis to determine further eligibility. The final step is a formal interview with a board, consisting of officers and staff nco's of presidential guard. Questions during this interview are random and sometimes "off the wall" to determine how the Marine reacts to different situations. Bearing and trustworthyness are also evaluated during this time. If your Marine is selected for the program, the final step is to fill out the nessisary paperwork. One thing to note: marines serving in this duty must extend their contracts to 5 years active duty.

After SOI, your Marine will attend security forces school in chesapeake, VA. The school is 6 weeks long, but many marines get stuck there for up to 5 months. The school's class sizes are small and marines have to wait to pick up with a class. While waiting, some marines get RA while others do working partys.

After compleation of SF school, your Marine will be sent to Marine Barracks 8th and I in Washington, D.C. The time spent here all depends on how fast the Top Secret clearance processes. The clearances have become completely automated instead of paper, so clearances are going through much faster than they used to. The normal time is between 6 months and a year. Dont be worried if the clearance is taking a long time, the initial screening process disqualifies almost all people who will not clear.

While at 8th and I, your Marine will be performing guard duty at the base. They will learn more advanced techniques and mission specific rules during there time here. The work schedules are long and sometimes chaotic, but your Marine will have plenty of time to see all the wonderful things in the DC area. During parade season, guard works very long days, so dont be worried if you dont hear from your Marine as often as you would like to. It will get better as time goes on.

When your Marines clearance goes through, they will be transfered to one of a few locations around the DC area. The furthest away is Camp David, while the others are close to 8th and I. Most guard Marines go to Camp David, but the other locations are still very nice. Don't be offended when your Marine doesn't tell you nearly as much about their duties as before, almost everything is classified to protect security.

In total, presidential guard is a 3 year duty. The first year or so at 8th and I, and the remaining time at their final destination. After there 3 years, your Marine will PCS to an infantry unit and start their origional mos.

If for some reason your Marines clearance never goes through, they will be utilized at 8th and I for there three years. Some stay in guard, but most are sent to a different section, including; PMO - provost marshalls office. Here they will still work with guard, but not standing posts. They will deal with training of guard marines, overall security, and a variety of other missions. Another common place to be sent is Grounds. Grounds is a section of maintenance, made up of marines origionally from guard or marching platoons. Grounds is responsible for the upkeep of the barracks, ranging from general landscaping to setting up for ceremonial functions such as parades. While this is not your Marines primary MOS, grounds is a good place to be as they encourage their marines to attend school in one of the many local universitys or online.

Marines chosen for presidential guard are not allowed to be married or to have any dependants. If your Marine would like to be Married, they can submit for command approval once they have recieved their clearance and are transfered to one of the secondary locations. If your Marine does get married or adds a dependant while they are working at 8th and I, they will be removed from the presidential guard program and follow the same path as the marines who's clearance doesnt process above.

Presidential guard Marines will recieve extra uniforms when they arrive at 8th and I. They will get dress blues as well as dress whites. Marines at 8th and I are the only marines, under the rank of SSgt, who are allowed to wear ceremonial white trousers. It is considered an honor.

8th and I is a very small base, as mentioned before. The px at the barracks carries food, cleaning supplies, and a few uniform and recreational items. Henderson Hall has a full px where your Marine can purchase all uniform items and other usual px goods. Bolling air force base has a commesary which is like a grocery store where your marines can purchase food at.

All together, DC is a wonderful place to be stationed and is full of things to do. There are many museums, monuments, and historical places to see, as well as the opportunity to camp, fish, ride mountain bikes, visit amusement parks, and many other attractions close by. Vehicles are not as important as they are in other areas, because of the great public transportation system DC has. There is a subway which goes most places, as well as buses to many others.

8th and I also has some of the best medical care available in the military. Basic sick call is a couple blocks away at Washington Navy Yard, and more serious injurys can be handled at either Bethesda National Naval Medical Center or Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Both are the best hospitals the military has to offer, and most seriously wounded warriors will be sent there for treatment once returning to the states.

Lastly, Marines selected for presidential guard are considered some of the best the military has. To be accepted and recieve a Top Secret clearance is a great honor. Very few Marines have the opportunity to serve with presidential guard and only the top 0.1% of all Marines will have the chance. After successful completion of their dutys, Marines recieve a Presidential Support Badge. This decoration is a great honor, great enough that the badge representing this honor is serialized and issued to the Marine. These Badges can not be purchased anywhere, limiting counterfit use. The only way to recieve another PSB is to submit the proper paperwork and have a second serialized PSB personally delivered to you.
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28-05-2013 10:50
Quote:Original Posted By aokbeh
kenapa sih kalau dilihat para gun lover seperti NRA selalu berasosiasi ke partai republik, sedangkan partai demokrat tidak dilirik ?
saya berasumsi kalau lihat komen-komen bung garrand dan bung HH sam disisi republik juga ya?


Saya bukan Republican ... lha wong voting saja belum bisa kok (I am not a US citizen). Namun dari latar belakang saya di Indonesia dan moral character hasil bentukan orang tua saya, pandangan sospol saya bisa di deskripsikan sebagai "conservative leaning libertarian".
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Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
28-05-2013 11:30
pak samosir mana yaa, gimana pendapat anda pak tentang ini
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28-05-2013 23:08


Quote:Original Posted By HHSam
The Marine saluting and the President.

Dekonstruksi masalah agar mudah dilihat dari kacamata politics and statesmanship di US adalah sebagai berikut.

1. The young Marine adalah representation of the Nation.
2. The CiC adalah representation of the mandated executive.
3. Both representations should be saluting each other.

Don't have to salute the rank but salute the representation thereof. As simple as that.

The Corporate respect the CEO as their elected leader, and the CEO respect the Corporate who writes his paycheck every now and then. emoticon-Cendol (S)

A true leader is bound to be set as example.
What examples do we have so far?

Salam.

Obama sadar dia lupa, balik, dan kembali untuk menyalami ybs. Pretty good example compared to the umbrellagate
CMIIW Pak, bukannya yang memulai tradisi salute itu Reagan?
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28-05-2013 23:37
Quote:Original Posted By DargombesHCII
pak samosir mana yaa, gimana pendapat anda pak tentang ini


lah ...itu di pekiwan beliau dah komen gan ........
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28-05-2013 23:49
Quote:Original Posted By garandman


This!

Bang Sam, have you ever considered running for a public office? I will help out with your campaign!

My older daughter has an aspiration to be a politician.
She will be the liberals nightmare ... muslim, immigrant, highly intelligent, pro 2nd, hunter, shooter, (will be as soon as she turns 18) gun owner, strong leadership, supportive of the military, love to debate (and wins), involved in various community service as volunteers, supports legal immigration (she is one) and opposes illegal immigration, compassionate to those less fortunate (she stands up in front of bullies to protect the bullied, she motivate kids who have no support from home due to messed up parents ... one of these kids received the award of "most improved" student in school) ... but she is only 14 ... will be a while before my family is gearing up to support her run for public office. In the mean time, if you choose to retire from the Corps and run for public office, call me.


Thank you so much for your support dik.
I am planing to retire already. Sudah terlalu lama meninggalkan keluarga dan handai taulan.

I am proud of Inuk and for you. She will be the new face of America.To enrich the diversity and to regain the country greatness. Fresh new idea usually comes from immigrant or even first born of immigrant that could change the course of our country's history. When the time comes, I'll give my support to her. I still have several them ears in Washington to talk to so she could explore her potential to the fullest.
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Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
29-05-2013 00:17
Quote:Original Posted By torres345
agan2 bisa minta infonya gak, knapa sih kok marinir seperti nya jg menjadi pasukan kehormatan di US dibanding kan dengan army nya, bahkan sampai protokoler istana marinir yg berperan bukan army???

mohon ilmu nya gan


Semenjak Presiden Eisenhower hingga Presiden Nixon, biasanya pasukan kehormatan di Gedung putih adalah tanggung jawab rentang antara US Army dan USMC. Itu sebabnya di jaman itu Presidential Helicopter biasa disebut Army-One atau Marine-One tergantung siapa pilotnya.

Semenjak tahun pertama pemerintahan Presiden R. Reagan, dia memerintahkan 24 MEU dari Camp Lejeune ke Libanon dibawah pasukan UN Forces. Sebagai catatan, USMC tidak pernah secara resmi dan mengirim pasukan utuh dibawah kendali United Nation. Biasanya yang terjadi adalah Penugasan oleh UN tetapi murni dibawah kendali Pentagon dan internal USMC. October 1983, markas marinir di Beirut dibom dan menewaskan hampir 300 marinir dari 1200 yang ada di barak tersebut. Yang oleh Presiden Reagan ditarik pulang dari tangan UN.

Ucapan presiden Reagan yang terkenal adalah:
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering
if they've made a difference. The Marines don't
have that problem."


Semenjak saat itu melalui perundingan alot di Congress, ditetapkan bahwa USMC menjadi satu satunya kecabangan militer yang bertanggung jawab mewakili dan menjaga setiap gedung perwakilan pemerintah Federal di luarnegeri, dan otomatis menjadi pengawal kehormatan setiap POTUS hingga saat ini. Ini sebabnya sejak saat itu helikopter kepresidenan (HMX-1) selalu menjadi Marine-One.
Mudah mudahan penjelasan sepintas ini dapat menjawab.
Diubah oleh HHSam
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Selingan - Obama Langgar Protokol Marinir ( lagi )
29-05-2013 00:26
Quote:Original Posted By aokbeh
kenapa sih kalau dilihat para gun lover seperti NRA selalu berasosiasi ke partai republik, sedangkan partai demokrat tidak dilirik ?
saya berasumsi kalau lihat komen-komen bung garrand dan bung HH sam disisi republik juga ya?


Di US apalagi General Staff tidak boleh berpolitik, sudah ditekankan dengan Capstone program. But that doesn't mean that one can not make his personal statement as long as not in public with his personal consent in full regalia. emoticon-Smilie
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